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Mon, Jul 6, 2020 6:54 PM


Restore: Embed the XMP file into the Camera Raw Database

Since the most recent update to Camera Raw version I now cannot embed the XMP file into the Camera Raw Database once I make adjustments to it and then save as a PSD file.

I have read the article about the fact that this feature has been removed.

The only 3 options available in preferences are:

1) Embed XMP in DNG
2) Always use sidecar XMP files
3) Ignore sidecar XMP files

Firstly I do not want to convert my images into DNG.

I tried all 3 options and in each case an XMP file appears next to my Raw and PSD files.

I’m a wedding photographer and an average wedding will produce 1200 to 1500 images and the thought of having 1200 to 1500 XMP files in the same folder as my RAW and PSD files is a nightmare.

Why has it changed and why am I not given the option to embed the XMP file so that I never see it? I know you can’t see the XMP file in Bridge but I also use File Explorer as I’m Windows based and if I move my files around, I will now have to make sure that I move the XMP file as well. This is a huge inconvenience to my workflow.

Adobe itself is making individuals pay a monthly subscription to use Photoshop etc saying that we will always be up to date with the latest developments which is why it’s such a good idea to have a subscription. I’m paying my monthly subscription, but now to get around this issue I’ve been told by the help desk I have to use an older version of Camera Raw! See the problem?

Please, please bring this feature back.

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I understand what you want and don't want. Sorry but as the Stone's wrote, you can't always get what you want. 
You cannot not have sidecar files AFAIK today or in the past. My understanding, I'm open to being corrected is XMP Sidecar files contained more information than what was stored in the ACR database but even if that's not the case, the database is gone. 

XMP has never been written into a proprietary raw by Adobe. Again as told last time, Adobe treats proprietary raws as 'read only'. 
This has nothing to do with PSD files either. All kinds of metadata can and is written to non proprietary raws like PSD, TIFF, JPEG.

There were many issues with the ACR database and I suspect that's why it's gone. 

From Real World ACR written years before the last change removing the ACR database:

Camera Raw Database
If you want to do absolutely no file management, and you work on only one computer, the advantage of saving settings in the Camera Raw database is that they're indexed by file content rather than name. You can rename your raw images and move them anywhere on your computer, and Camera Raw will still associate the correct settings with each image.

The significant downside is that you rely on a single file on a single computer to hold all your image settings. If you move the images to a different machine, or even just burn them on a CD, the settings won't travel with the images. So while settings saved in the Camera Raw database are easy to handle in terms of file management on a single machine, they're very inflexible. This inflexibility leads me to always save my settings as sidecar .xmp files.

Sidecar XMP Files
Adobe's XMP (Extensible Metadata Platform) is an open, documented, W3C-compliant standard for saving metadata (literally, data about data), including all the EXIF data generated by the camera; IPTC information such as captioning, keywording, and copyright notices; and, last but not least, all the settings you used in Camera Raw on a given image.
When you elect to save image settings as .xmp sidecar files, they're saved in a small file with the same name as the image and a .xmp extension. The sidecar file is automatically saved in the same folder as the image, which is usually what you want.
As you'll learn in the next chapter, Photoshop's File Browser offers features that automatically keep the sidecar files with the raw images as long as you use the File Browser to copy or move them. If you use some other software to move or copy your images, it's up to you to keep the sidecar files with the images. Since they're always saved in the same folder as the images, and the file names match those of the images, this isn't hard to do.
But whichever method you use, Camera Raw doesn't limit you to saving only the entire group of settings for a specific image. Much of the power and flexibility of Camera Raw comes from its ability to save subsets of settings in addition to complete sets of image settings.