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Tue, Sep 17, 2013 9:08 AM

Lightroom: Ability to cull images through rating, color, picks during import

I wish, I could rate my picture using my evaluation-stars and -colors directly during the import process and adding specific meta-tags maybe just to one photo (and not the entire import).For instance: I am shooting all day for 5 different projects - they all mix on one SD-card. Coming back, I have to go thru the import-process 5 times, looking thru all the pictures over and over again to sort out the pictures for these five projects.Why can ́t I do this straightaway during import? Am I over looking something already there in LR?I hope, you can understand my wish.

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5 y ago

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Add "Cull" module to Lightroom.

Please add a "Cull" module to Lightroom that a photographer can choose to use before Import where you can open up a folder of photos on the hard drive and have thumbnails shown using the JPEG previews stored inside Raw files.  Let the photographer use all of the ratings (stars, colors, pick flags) to apply to photos then use those ratings to decide how to move into the Import process from there.  Have Lightroom offer to only import photos with certain ratings, or to import all photos but only build the previews (both standard and smart) for the photos with certain ratings.  This would speed up the process of culling photos tremendously and prevent people from turning to products like Photo Mechanic to do that portion of their workflow.

Very happy to talk in more detail with Adobe about this idea if you would like.

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I think my idea is a bit different here from what Joachim is suggesting.  It isn't just the ability to apply ratings as part of the import process.  I want to have the options for not even importing photos that don't make the cut and/or controlling which photos will have standard and/or smart previews generated.

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Jeff, count me as ME TOO on your suggestion. I use Fast Picture Viewer because using Lightroom to cull is self-torture. I would love to have a cull module.

Frankly though, I am worried about the future of LR, based on all the problem posts I see on this site. 

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Agree that Jeff's idea is different than Joachim's.
Also a big fan of Jeff's idea!

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The Cull Module is BRILLIANT!   PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add this.  Would be an excellent way to speed up my Lightroom Workflow.  I've been taking a look more at Luminar Photo (competitor to Lightroom) as well as Photo Mechanic for one reason only--culling takes too long in Lightroom.  It's just unreasonably slow.

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I've started using FastPictureViewer (~$50) to cull. You can use the X to mark delete and Ctrl-X to actually delete. That gets me started before I go into LR. A culling module in LR would be better though.

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5 y ago

A pre-import "cull" mode would be great.

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5 y ago

Guys, as these topics were merged, click the "Vote" button to the top right of this page so to bump it up Adobe's list.

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Quick note: When threads are merged the votes from the two threads are added together.

Sr. Product Manager, Adobe Digital Imaging

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Hi Jeffrey!
I don't understand why my 'Sort by Star Rating during import' thread was merged with a thread that was started 7 years ago? I mean - if a thread was created to solve a problem / come up with a solution - why has it not been solved in 7 years? Also, now the thread is buried again... Do coders / head honchos ever look at these threads and go 'that is a good idea?' Or are we just wasting time trying to contribute here. 7 years is a long time!!!

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5 y ago

I would like to add to this:

I want Photoshop Lightroom to find the areas of the photo that are in focus and mark them when nothing is in focus.

Photoshop already does this automatically for focus stacking.

I want it applied in Lightroom to cull photos.

Please push this idea. Adobe already knows how to do it.

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do you know how unbelievably long it would take for Lightroom to analyze all your images for focus?

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3 y ago

The #1 issue overwhelmingly with Lightroom is speed.  And the most bogged down part of the application is in culling.  If you are a mastermind and can figure out how to tweak settings to make things go faster, then that is great.  But that does not fit me or I suspect 99% of LR users.  So make it easy on us and make Adobe look like rock stars add a simple Cull module.  Problem solved!

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Use the Embedded Preview option when importing and speed is not an issue for the initial cull.

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Agreed, embedded preview workflow really helps, but it takes some knowledge to know how to use that workflow and I really think a cull module would help make it work without having to understand how to do a particular workflow.

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eh? which is easier - selecting Embedded Preview during import or learning an entirely new module?

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People are already familiar with how to use things like Photo Mechanic to solve the problem, so I think the new module has a better chance.

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I've always culled before importing by using the free "Faststone" (Win only). Mark the "ins" by a tag (press backslash as you go through the thumbnails), and ignore the "outs." Then at the top sort only on tags, drag them into a new folder, and import to LR from that folder.

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3 y ago

Why is there no filter options during import? When I have time i rate images in the camera so I directly can start to work on the correct images in LR. 

If I take 100 images, rate 10 of them I would to like to import only the 10 images and skip the other 90 image to save time, battery, HD space and so on when I'm at the laptop.

Why isn't this possible? Can't take long time to develop?
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic CC: Filter on rating during import

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9 m ago

While we can 'star' / rate images on our cameras, we should be able to import ONLY the starred images as it would save a lot of time and a lot of hard drive space. For example - shoot a sports match at 10 frames per second = 2000 images + select & star 40 hero images on camera, therefore should be able to import ONLY these 40 starred images... Instead we have to import 2000 images and then click 'star' rating. This is a waste of time.
There are already sorting options in the import dialog - but the only truely useful one is missing. 
PLEASE ADD THIS OPTION - SORRY FOR SHOUTING !!!!

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom > Import - should be able to import 'starred' images ONLY

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In LrC, Simply when importing, uncheck the images you do not want to import! Then start the import!

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@yves_crausaz ?? For a start, starred ratings do not appear in grid mode on the import page - so how would you know what to uncheck? Going through all the images in this view takes for ever. And 'simply' uncheck 1,960 images? That still means scrolling through hundreds of images and unchecking them... Easier said than done. 
 What would be easier is for Adobe to just add 'SORT BY > STARRED RATING'. That would be so easy to implement - no idea why they haven't done this. Photomechanic has done this ages ago...

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Sounds like a reasonable request, and it surprises me that I cannot find a similar earlier request. Surely you can’t be the only one who would like this?

OTOH I wondered. I never use in-camera star rating myself, because I think it is very time consuming and cumbersome. You can only judge the images on a small LCD screen, so you need to zoom in on each image to check sharpness. You also do not have a compare view, making it extra difficult to decide if this image is really better than the previous one(s). I guess most photographers use the same workflow as I do: They don’t waste time rating images in-camera, but simply import them all and then rate them in Lightroom.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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he unchek button at the foot of the window, then they check only discreet pictures.... So alone will be imported the checking!

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It's been a while.... but I "think" Photomechanic can help with this.  It can import a large shoot MUCH quicker than LR.  At that point you filter based on star rating and just "open" those for editing in LR.  That means PhotoMechanic calls LR to just import only those images.  This saves a LOT of time in the sort of workflow that you describe.

 

I purchased PM a few years ago for that reason.  Up until this covid year, I do one shoot a year that involves shooting an insane number of images and need to process a very small number of selects quickly.  I'd rate images in camera and then use the workflow described above to get the selects into LR.  I too would LOVE it if star ratings showed during LR import.

Bob Smith

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9 m ago

Somebody merged a recent discussion with this thread, but I am not sure that is correct. This thread is about rating during import. The merged thread was about Lightroom filtering images that are rated in-camera. Similar perhaps, but definitely not the same request.

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The sad & super lame thing is that this old original thread is over 7 years old - therefore proving that this forum falls on deaf ears!!

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The commonality among previous comments was about choosing which photos to import based on ratings, pick flags, and other criteria. Some wanted to apply ratings and pick flags in a pre-import window, while others wanted to use the ratings set in-camera. 

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Also, I see that I added "why conversations get merged" to the wrong reply -- sorry about that.  Grouping related feature requests together is more likely to influence the product developers, since they use the number of likes and the variety of thoughtful comments to help prioritize development. 

This particular thread did appear to influence Adobe -- a main gripe was that import was way too slow for workflows dealing with hundreds and thousands of photos that were going to get quickly culled. So a later version of LR added the embedded-preview import option, which greatly speeds up import. But that doesn't completely satisfy all of the needs expressed here.

I've made several dozen feature requests over the years, some of which Adobe has implemented in some form (at least partially), most of which not, but I still submit them.  That's the nature of product development. I'm not thrilled about the pace of LR's evolution, but there's no competitor out there that better meets my needs.

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If Adobe has someone that full time monitors their social media amongst their 20,000 workers - it wouldn't be much of an ask to forward the best ideas to the developers. I used to work for a large govt institution (a museum) on their social media and a lot of relevant interactions / ideas were  shared throughout the organisation fairly quickly.
While here we have something (sort by star on import) that is really a NEED - not a want. It would take a few days of coding on the back end?And it's something that would save photographers hours and days of time per year. Yet they haven't implemented the idea in 7+ years.
Feels like head butting a wall ha. 
I mean - we can't even export slide shows / videos at 4K even after 6 years of asking for it and that would be insanely easy to implement. 

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Currently, three Adobe employees do regularly participate here: Senior Product Manager Jeff Tranberry, Quality Engineer Rikk Flohr, and Rick (sorry don't know his last name).

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9 m ago

This is a 4 year old thread that just blew up my inbox. 

The topic of why not filter the ratings your camera gives might be because not all cameras use the same "standard" which makes it hard.

PhotoMechanic and... Adobe Bridge that comes with LR can help with this.

I use bridge for most stuff. PM is great when you need to tag too (like for a news wire). Both look at the metadata and use the embedded JPEG for very fast preview. Select the ones in bridge and drag them into LR. You end up on the import page with just the ones you want. I always do a first pass in Bridge. 

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"not all cameras use the same "standard" which makes it hard."

I've helped a number of people on these forums over the years with getting in-camera ratings being seen in LR (after import). I don't recall any cameras using other than the industry-standard XMP:Rating field. (But it's certainly possible some troglodyte manufacturers don't follow the standard.)