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Sun, Dec 13, 2020 1:54 AM

Lightroom Classic: Guided upright doesn't work with some Leica DNG files

I encountered with an issue with Guided Upright.
When I try to straighten up things for DNG file it doesn't work.
I have this issue on both Mac and Windows.
The DNG file is a raw file from Leica M10-R
See the video below. I forgot to click Update in video, but it doesn't do anything.

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9 m ago

Working fine on my Windows 10 machine with Lightroom V10.1. Tested on Canon and Nikon files. Perhaps you are being punished for buying a Leica. But seriously, while DNG started as a standard (as did TIF), companies have been messing with it. 

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Converted to DNG? Or regular raw files?

My Sony ARW files working fine too.

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9 m ago

I tested on Mac and cannot reproduce what you are seeing.  There is a brief delay while the photo recalculates but it does render with the changes. 

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@Rikk is there a way to enable any kind of logging in Lightroom? Also here is an example of the raw file I have issues with.

Please let me know if I can provide anything else to help with this issue.

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9 m ago

Thanks for providing the file and thank you for bringing this to our attention. I was able to reproduce this with your image as well as DNG images from other Leica cameras. (M10 Monochrome, M10-P, M10-D, and S2)

I have logged a bug and will update this thread when we learn more.

Thank you for your patience.

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Hi Rick,

I wonder, if you have a solution for the described issue in the meantime?

Best,

Monika

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Since upgrading to MacOS Big Sur 11.1 (20C69), the Transform > Guided tool has stopped working for me. You can set the two vertical and two horizontal lines, but no changes are made to the photo - it stays just as it was. Any solutions to this?

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic: MacOS Big Sur 11.1 (20C69) - Guided Transformations no longer working.

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I can't reproduce the problem on my Mac running Big Sur and Lightroom Classic 10.1. Guided transform works as expected. Maybe you should try resetting the preferences.

Johan W. Elzenga,

http://www.johanfoto.com

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Thanks for the tip and for checking though unfortunately this does not work for me. I have reset the preferences successfully but guided transform still does not work.

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Any chance you could record a video showing the failure and post a link to it here?

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Peter, please upload a sample failing photo to Dropbox or similar and post the sharing link here.

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Thanks. Here's the link to the file on Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ud3v8mq821jiql/L1008375.DNG?dl=0

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The misbehavior occurs reliably in my Mac LR 10.1 with your DNG and a sample Leica M10-R DNG from dpreview.com. 

It occurs intermittently with DNGs from the DJI Mavic Mini 2, the Lightroom Mobile camera app, and from with Sony RX100-V raws converted to DNG. But I can't figure out a reliable way to make the behavior occur with these.   After the misbehavior occurs with these, the Transform > Guided panel shows the warning, "! Invalid guide configuration".

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Thanks for checking, John. Good to know.

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Guided Transform on my Windows 10 machine won't work on this image either. As I've many other dng files that work fine, must be something about support for the images from your Leica. Did monitor with Task Manager to ensure that it wasn't working. 

 

While not a solution, all the sliders work fine. 

 

Constrain crop had no effect. 

 

Auto did work to a degree but I wouldn't find the result acceptable without further adjustments. A Rotate of +.03 after Auto did give a fairly good though not great result. Attached. 

 

So another bug for Adobe to fix.  

 

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Interesting that it does not work on Windows 10 either. This appears to be a new bug - it has been working on the same file in previous versions of Lightroom Classic. Thanks for your help. Over to Adobe!

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Peter, 

 

Another go-around. 

 

As you are probably aware, DNG is only a pretend standard, like TIF. Otherwise you would not be having this problem as the Guided Transform works just fine with many other DNG formats. So I ran some tests, exporting the DNG as a DNG but without any success, the resultant files didn't work. However, exporting as a 16 bit TIF does enable the tool. A least one downside is that the file is now almost 6 times as large.  

 

Now here's the funny part. Exporting the new TIF as a DNG and then editing this DNG and everything is good. The Transform functions work just fine with this DNG. Well, sort of good, you still have a file that is 4 times as large as the original. 

 

I am not by any means a TIF expert so I don't know if there is any loss of quality in these DNG => TIF => DNG conversions. Viewing them in the Library module at 200% with the comparison tool, I couldn't see any differences. 

 

  

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Greetings,

Updates to Camera Raw, Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products for Desktop, Mobile and Web, were released today and contain a fix for this issue.

Please refresh your Creative Cloud application and install your update when it becomes available. Thank you for your patience.