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Wed, Jan 18, 2012 9:38 PM

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Lightroom Classic: Read and write video metadata into video or sidecar

The new Video part is great! I really like the previews.It is a great addition to sort and tag your video's. Only one problem:The tagging system doesn't work properly, it doesn't store the tags in the video-files like it is possible with the photo's. I hope this will be working in the Final.

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828 Points

9 y ago

My Fujifilm X10 movies are shown as shot by unknown camera (and unknown lens, BTW).
No metadata panel under Lightroom is able to extract the camera model.

If I open any .MOV under finder and CMD+I, the camera name is shown:



It mean that the data is written somewhere but Lightroom did not manage to find it.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: movies shot by "Unknown Camera".

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828 Points

Waiting for the thread to be split back again, here is the output for exiftool.
The camera model is reported twice:

Information                     : FUJIFILM DIGITAL CAMERA X10

Camera Model Name : X10

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Same thing as in the other thread.

The fact that the metadata is in the file and ExifTool can see it, does not mean Lightroom would necessarily read it.

The title of this topic is a bit obsolete (thus it mislead you), but this thread has become the master thread for the issue of "poor video metadata handling" in general. And this is exactly the reason why Lightroom does not display your camera model name.

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As moderator you're allowed to do that, but you're really mixing apple and oranges in the very same basket.
Beside that, exiftool reads that, Apple Finder reads that. The metadata is not encrypted.

Missing such information in Lightroom and displaying "unknown camera" for a known one is indeed a bug.
Let's hope that Adobe fixes it shortly. It shouldn't be that hard.

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Yes, the metadata is there and yes, it is a bug (or a design limitation). But it's the same bug/limitation, or rather a subset of the one discussed in this topic — "Poor video metadata handling". (I guess we should update the topic title, maybe?)

There's no much use in same problem reports being scattered over multiple topics. I believe, a problem has a bigger chance to get attention when the "Me Too" counter has a higher value.

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116 Points

Im all for whatever gives this issue a higher profile. Its such a glaring gap that really hamstrings LR as a management tool for videos.

Things like the 'Date Created' vs 'Date Modified' problem, which is clearly NOT by design (its different then the way photos are treated for example), have been complained about since LR 3 beta two years ago, and nothing is ever done.

I still dont use LR to manage my videos, for just these reasons.

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60 Points

9 y ago

Importing videos from Samsung WB2000 into Lightroom 4.x does not have proper creation dates. This was not a problem with Lighroom 3.x

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom 4: Videos from Samsung WB2000 have improper dates.

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102 Points

9 y ago

Hi,

I have imported AVCHD videos from an SD card in Panasonic HD writer to a harddisk. Later on, I have imported these files in lightroom. Now, Lightroom 4.1 displays the capture date as the date on which the files were written to the harddisk. When I view the properties of the files in Sony Vegas 10, it correctly displays the capture date as the date on which the clips were made, so the capture date code is still correctly embedded. Lightroom 4.1 correctly orders the files chronologically, so it is able to read the date code correctly.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
LIGHTROOM 4.1: Capture date of videos from harddisk incorrect.

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In your case, LR isn't reading the capture date from the metadata; rather, it is sorting your thumbnails by their files' file-modified date. LR displays the file-created date in grid view, but it uses the file-modifed date for sorting and filtering:

http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

When you copy a file on Windows, the file-modified date (set by the camera) is preserved, while the file-created date is set to the date/time the file was copied.

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3.1K Points

9 y ago

LR 4.2 does not read GPS data from my iPhone 4 videos, reads wrong capture data (shifted by 2h). Both problems do not occur with simple iPhone JPEGs.

Other external software does read this video metadata information correctly.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
LR 4.2 import problem with iPhone video: no GPS data, wrong capture time.

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152 Points

9 y ago

I have not idea why Adobe doesn't read video metadata!

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152 Points

9 y ago

this was a problem in LR 3 too, and Adobe added more video functionality into LR 4 but conveniently skipped this. Google Picasa does this for free!

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10.6K Points

9 y ago

Even if Lightroom (4.2) can't write to THM sidecar files, there doesn't seem to any reason it couldn't at least read all the exif & iptc fields. I set the IPTC "Title" field using a separate program (exiftool), and it causes me many problems that Lightroom can't read this field for my .MOV files, and maintains a separate, unsynchronized value for this field.

exiftool is a free and highly tested tool that Adobe could easily add to Lightroom to handle cases where their team hasn't gotten around to writing the code, I wish that Adobe would use it (or write their own code) so that video is a "first class" citizen in Lightroom.

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I have decided to use the following as a temporary work-around to this problem:

Canon, at least, creates a thm file for every movie file. A thm file stores some of the metadata associated with the movie file (like date/time), and can be used to store other any other IPTC metadata like location, latitude/longitude. Lightroom, of course ignores the thm file. However if you duplicate the thm files as jpg files (I have an applescript that does this), then Lightroom will at least treat the jpg files as "first class" citizens, allowing you to save metadata in them, and write metadata to them from other programs.

If you use other programs to change metadata in your image files (like georeferencing) or if you just like to have the metadata saved with the image so you can share it with other people and other programs, the "JPEG sidecar" is at least a partial solution.

For Mac users, the following AppleScript will duplicate all thm files in a directory to jpg files.

==

set theFolder to choose folder with prompt "Choose a folder of thm files."
tell application "Finder" to set thmFiles to files of theFolder whose name extension is "THM"

repeat with f in thmFiles
set src to POSIX path of (f as text)
set dest to ((characters 1 thru -4 of src) as text) & "jpg"
set whatIwouldDo to "cp " & quoted form of src & " " & quoted form of dest
try
do shell script whatIwouldDo
end try
end repeat

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This is the technique that the Any File plugin uses -- it creates a "proxy" JPEG thumbnail that gets imported into the catalog, and it transfers all metadata from the video file or its sidecars (e.g. .thm's) to the proxy file. Any metadata changes you make in lightroom are written to the proxy JPEG.

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Yes, of course, John, I should have mentioned Any File as another (great) solution.

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9 y ago

That is a good comment, thanks. Did you click the +1 at the top ".... people have this problem". Maybe if we get enough hits, Adobe will finally address this problem.

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3.3K Points

9 y ago

One can only hope that the LIghtroom development team will get the resources necessary to follow the current metadata standards that are already being used in Premier and Final Cut Pro X.

-louie

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3.3K Points

9 y ago

Hey In case anyone is interested here is the Final Cut Pro XML format specification pdf

I'm sure that there is a similar document for Premier and Avid.

-louie

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132 Points

9 y ago

The fact that LR can't save metadata to video files is a severe limitation and makes it next to useless for video processing. I don't understand really why? Bridge can do it, why not Lightroom? I understand that there maybe performance penalties but that can be dealt with by some "batch syncing" to files.

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100 Points

9 y ago

In reality, the video was taken last week. The camera is a Samsung TL350, so it is not that old, and the files are in MP4 format. Attached are two screenshots, one showing Lightroom's idea that the video is from 1945, and another from Windows showing that the file was created on 1/29/2013 at 6 pm.

Is there at least a workaround for this? Right now, I have to copy these files manually, or Lightroom puts them in wacky folders based on random, ancient dates.



This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom thinks my camera took videos 68 years ago.

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From the original thread:

LR has problems creating folders organized by capture time (there are other threads here and in the user-to-user forum on that topic).

Finally, that the time is off by 68 years indicates a very specific bug, the use of a 32- bit variable rather than a 64-bit variable to hold a time value. A signed 32-bit integer can only represent the number of seconds equivalent to +/- 68 years. There was a similar bug in LR 3 for Mac:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/3701469

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3.3K Points

8 y ago

Already to 5.3 RC and no change... It won't even read basic media info that is easy to read using exiftool.

It continues to be frustrating the Adobe cannot seem to spare the resources to handle some of this basic metadata support. Just look at the endless and as of yet unanswered requests for better keyword management too.

-louie

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154 Points

8 y ago

Like Louis, I'm on 5.3, and cannot manage my videos correctly. The Capture Time is all messed up, and there is a LOT of manual editing required. Then, even after i manually update the capture time, the file renaming function pulls from date/time digitized, so then there's more manual work required. Very frustrating!

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Question maybe its been covered. when importing stills and video from my Canon power shot G15. the stills will have for example exif date and time 09:00am (time taken) but if I have a video shortly after say taken at 9:05am the create date may show 09:05 but exif has a 4 hr difference of 13:05. I looked at video file in Canon software and don't see a issue. just when looking at LR catalog listing I have to alter time for the .MOV files. I tried test with my 60D and 70D and it appears to be ok. anyone else have this problem? Is it LR6CC or me?

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Adobe has acknowledged they never finished their support of video metadata in LR.

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It is too bad that Adobe seems to be unable to marshal any resources to address this issue or any other metadata enhancements.

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140 Points

8 y ago

Same here. Lightroom 5.3 and struggling hard to work with capture time for my videos. Things get even more complicated when trying to export videos to flickr since flickr is not very good either, at handling capture date...