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Wed, Jul 15, 2020 6:44 AM

Lightroom Classic: Support for Apple Silicon (ARM SoC)

I'm surprised no one has asked this question yet ;-)

What's Adob's official position regarding LRC's development on both Intel (x86) and Apple's new "Apple silicon" (ARM) platforms.

Will LRC be a native "silicon" app ? Or will it die being Intel only ?
Will dev continue on Intel ? For how long ? Will it rely only on Rosetta 2 ?
Is there a risk of incompatibility between both or even separated roadmaps and versions ?

Cheers!

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The team is working on a native version of Lightroom Classic for Apple Silicon, and it will be released next year. We're also committed to continuing support for Intel-based Macs.

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Thanks for this cristal clear info, Rikk! ;-)

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@Rikk Please provide a possibility for the people who still use e.g. LR6 to upgrade one time without any updates (e.g. for the equivalent of one years subscription) to a version that does run on ARM. I bought LR6 back in 2015 and was using it ever since. However as I am taking photographs with a DSLR only very seldom I'd be fine with the capabilities of LR6 withou any further development. Unfortunately the m1 does not allow the install of LR6 despite the statement that "Lightroom 4.1 and later is natively compatibile on Apple devices with M1 processors." https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-cc/kb/macos-big-sur-compatibility.html

I'd be happy to pay a one time update but for using the program onnce or twice a year USD 162 (equivalent to CHF 12/Month) is terribly expensive. I am very disappointed that that statement was false and that the old program can't be used anymore :-(

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"Lightroom 4.1 and later"  refers to Lightroom Desktop - a software originally released in 2017. 4.1 was released in December 2020   The version numbers have nothing to do with the product Lightroom 1-6 (released 2007- 2017). 

Please see https://feedback.photoshop.com/conversations/forum-usability-topics/lightroom-products-naming/5f5f46294b561a3d427730f4  for clarification of Lightroom Naming conventions and timelines.

With regard to Lightroom 6 - this document is the document that applies: https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/macos-big-sur-compatibility.html  

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Support for Apple's Silicon Processor was released for Lightroom Classic today. 

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Why do you Assume that if LrC isn't somehow ported to Apples supposedly new processor that it will die?

I guess you haven't really look at the news articles of these new CPU's.

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Looks like you know more than me or what Adobe's plans are. Feel free to share your knowledge :-)

...but if you're still at the "supposedly new processor" stage, I'm not sure we'll know much more at the end of the day ;-)

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Adobe never comments on future developments, so I doubt they will comment this time. I also don’t think this is a question that needs an answer right now. Apple will support Intel Macs via Rosetta 2 for many years to come, so there is no short term question that needs an answer.

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Rosetta2 will not support Intel Macs, it will support ARM Macs. There is no need to use a such a utility for current production Apple desktops and laptops. Rosetta 2 will be used in the interim for the new processor line just as Rosetta 1 was used during the change over to Intel processors until developers can catch up with the new platform.

Secondly, this coming change sheds a little light on why Adobe has invested so much recent effort in porting the full enchilada version of Photoshop for iPad ... those tablets use ARM processors, much of that coding effort can be used for desktop and laptop units later, so in some ways, Adobe appears to be ahead of the curve.

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(Note: I’m replying when Rikk has already replied)I understand your answer, Johan, however I think the question was worth being asked. Despite many comments regarding Adobe continuing LRC’s development, the platform switch could have been a good opportunity for them to ditch Classic completely in favor of cloudy, which was already rewritten from the ground up.
Rosetta would have been a short and mid term solution, but won’t last forever. A little bit like the Aperture users some years ago.

No answer or a negative answer would have been a precious information for anyone coming to an end of it’s yearly subscription and comparing all the options on the market right now. Or searching the web as potential new clients :-)

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I disagree. If Adobe wants to scrap Lightroom Classic, then they can do so at any time. They don't need Apple's help or an excuse. Half of their Lightroom Classic customers are Windows users anyway. But you've got your answer.

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Of course they can do whatever they want, but having to completely rewrite a software they've have already rewritten for a similar app could have been the right trigger. Question asked, question answered, whether you personally care or not. Please show some respect to whom this info might be important to, being to chose their hardware, OS, DAM, software, ... or any other reason.
Windows is just out of topic...

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I fail to see where I do not show respect. For your info: I am a Mac user.

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Another worry is how long will our Intel-based Macs be supported, which of course is a question for Apple, not Adobe.  If you start a chat with an Apple Sales agent at apple.com, they'll tell you eight to nine years.  Back when Apple switched from the G3/G4/G5 to Intel, it was disappointing to reach a point where all updates or upgrades required new hardware; however, it was really smooth on the Adobe side of things (I hear the coding side is a lot of work - so an extra "Thank you" to the coders of Photoshop, After Effects, Illustrator, InDesign, Premiere Pro, Media Encoder, and Audition).  I imagine it will be more or less the same going from Intel-based Macs to Apple Silicon as far as Photoshop or Lightroom are concerned.

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Some updates and great additional information from Lightroom PM Josh Haftl: 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/l6aaau/lr_classic_to_apples_m1_how_is_the_port_going/ 

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Where is this piece of software?

Some people can't migrate to the new CC version due to a lack of feature support or folder structure from migration. 

I've been using the translated version of Classic for 3 weeks now and the performance is dire. It starts off fine just like the intel version but degrades as soon as you start flicking through photos. 

Is it ever going to come out?

Also is the intel version ever going to get overhauled so the performance actually mimics that in CC. Also how about a proper grid layout that does away with huge padding around each cell.

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic: - M1 Version where?

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This thread is being merged into an existing authoritative thread for better tracking and response. 

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@JayClulow

Adobe never communicates on upcoming releases or feautre... So I'm only speculating, but given the time since the M1 was annouced and given the place Adobe has taken during the keynote, I wouldn't excpect anything else than an update quite soon :-)

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Converting to a feature request from a question. 

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This is my question, which I keep on asking myself every day when I start my M1 Mac mini and check CC to see if Adobe, at last, released an M1 native Lightroom Classic Version. I meen, the M1 has been around now for 6 months... right? 

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled When will Adobe release an Apple Silicon M1 Native build?

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It will be released when ready.

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Adobe continues to say, "Native compatibility is planned for 2021":

https://helpx.adobe.com/ca/lightroom-classic/kb/macos-big-sur-compatibility.html 

They rarely say anything this specific about dates and plans, so I wouldn't expect to see anything from them more specific until it is actually released.

Adobe generally releases a new version of LR every two months, which suggests the next version would have been released a couple weeks ago.   So I think it's very likely we'll see the next release in a couple three weeks. (I'm not privy to inside information.)  But who knows if it will have native support for the M1.

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For those interested in what Adobe’s roll out of Apple native software is looking like:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/adobe-creative-cloud-app-performance-surges-more-than-80-on-m1-macbook-pro-vs-intel-based-systems/?ftag=TRE-03-10aaa6b&bhid=27792209414378063615479760177616&mid=13394566&cid=1931336169&eh=ff8a4d91b98c5f6a0cb8c8fb51d9a40e84545392e1e9010cfd5c0d5c9667bd73

With the exceptional performance on what’s the Apple equivalent of an i5, I can’t wait to see what’s released for the the higher end.

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