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Lightroom Classic: Truncated fields and font glitches in Metadata panel

The Metadata panel has some glitches in LR 10 / Mac OS 10.15.5 with the new fonts:

And some fields don't display their last line (off by one error?):
To reproduce this, try changing the width of the panel.
About the fonts in LR 10, the Lightroom Queen wrote: "[T]he font has been updated throughout the app, to use Adobe’s newly standards. While many formatting issues have already been identified and fixed, you might still find a few odd gremlins or spacing issues."
Here's another example, with a custom metadata tagset:
Here's the definition of that tagset:
return {title = "Any Vision",id = 'anyvision',items = {
     {"com.johnrellis.anyvision.labels", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.landmarks", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.locations", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.map"},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.logos", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.faces", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.text", height_in_lines = -1},{"com.johnrellis.anyvision.safeSearch", height_in_lines = -1},"com.johnrellis.anyvision.dominantColor","com.adobe.separator",{"com.adobe.caption", height_in_lines = -1},"com.adobe.GPS"}}

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In the Library module, all editable metadata fields with more than one line of text display truncated text unless I select the field. I've attached two screen grabs, one shows the unselected state and the other the selected state. When unselected, the bottom line of text is missing.







Lightroom Classic CC 7.4

Model Name: MacBook Pro
Model Identifier: MacBookPro13,3
Processor Name: Intel Core i7
Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz
Number of Processors: 1
Total Number of Cores: 4
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache: 6 MB
Memory: 16 GB
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Truncated text in editable metadata fields in library module

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Hi Robtmann ,

Thanks for reporting this issue. are you seeing it consistently or it is intermittent?

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Thanks for the reply, Ruby. It’s a consistent error. It occurs in all editable fields except for the keyword field.

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This also happens with my LR 7.4 / Macos 10.13.5 / Macbook Pro Retina 15-in mid-2015:

 

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okay, Thanks for details John and Robtmann. We are looking into it.

Regards,
Ruby

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Hi Rob,

Is it still reproducible with Lightroom Classic 7.5?

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1 y ago

Note that the first four screenshots are from built-in tagsets of the Metadata panel and don't involve the SDK.

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Lightroom Classic version: 10.0 [ 202010011851-ef6045e0 ]
License: Creative Cloud
Language setting: en
Operating system: Mac OS 10
Version: 10.15.5 [19F96]
Displays: 1) 3840x2400

Graphics Processor Info: 
Metal: AMD Radeon Pro Vega 20

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1 y ago

I could reproduce it by changing the width of the panel.

Lightroom Classic version: 10.0 [ 202010011851-ef6045e0 ]
Language setting: en

MacBook pro

Operating system: Mac OS 10
Version: 10.15.7 [19H2]

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I was able to provoke a glitch on LR 10 / Windows by starting with "Robert in backyard, Nara (with his stuffed" and then adding one non-space at a time and slowly sliding the panel width back and forth:

 

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I am able to reproduce this consistently.  For me, what occurs is that after initially entering a multi-line Title and hitting Return, LrC correctly displays the entire Title.  However, if one deselects that image and later returns to that image, LrC fails to display the last line (e.g., if the Title as entered required 3 lines to display fully, after reselecting the image only 2 of the 3 lines will display.

See this video below for examples

The video was made with all 3rd party plugins disabled and with a new, virgin catalog.

I also tried changing the font size in Preferences->Interface from Small to Large and back again (restarting LR each time) and the problem persisted no matter which font size was selected.

My configuration

MacOS 10.15.7

LrC 10.0

Language setting: en

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, 2020)

Displays: built-in iMac screen + NEC MultiSync PA242W (1920x1200)

Graphic Processor: AMD Radeon Pro 5500 XT

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1 y ago

I've dug a bit more into this, and the issue is not restricted to the Title field.  I certainly can't say I've tried ALL fields, but any text field I've tried shows this issue.  For example, the Caption field is built in to show 5 lines, but if one enters a Caption that spans more than 5 lines, the last line will not display.  I've  also tried a number of other fields, with the same result.

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10 m ago

Try out 10.1, released yesterday, and see if the fields look better. 

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@Rikk

Thanks so much for this!  10.1 hasn't hit my Creative Cloud yet, but as soon as it does, I'll give it a go!  Much appreciated!

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Let us know what you see.

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@Rikk

Alas, my experience is the same as @John_R_Ellis  :(

Both the Title and Caption fields continue to truncate.

Screenshot of Title and Caption fields.  Context suggests both fields are truncated.

 

Screenshot showing full Title after clicking in the Title field:

Screenshot after clicking in Caption field showing complete Caption:

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10 m ago

Unfortunately, I still see the glitch between Title and Caption when I first enter the values into the fields (using auto completion):

And I still see the truncation of the fields as I adjust the width of the right column:
LR 10.1 / Mac OS 10.15.7.

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8 m ago

Currently in the latest version of Lightroom Classic (and all earlier versions) the fields for seeing and editing the File Name and Title are hard fixed at one line of around 30 characters. This is crazy with modern operating systems that allow for loooonnnggg file names, and for people who use long Titles. Can Adobe please allow for the entry fields to be bigger or auto adjustable in size. By comparison, the fixed Keyword Tags displayed content is massive, and the Caption field auto resizes to suit content - which is precisely what File Name and Title should do as well.  Thank you.  If no Adobe person will ever see this, where do I submit corrections for bad interface design?


Not everyone has fond memories of ye olde 8.3    XXXXXXXX.XXX   fixed file name sizes...

 

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Lightroom Classic: Support for seeing long file names and titles

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For tittle I don't see the limitation you are talking about. Tittle is Titre in french ;) 

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Maybe I should have said I am using the version for Apple Macintosh.   Are you using Microsoft Windows version?

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Yes W10 ;) generally the length of a filed is linked with the Database and not the OS. Can it be only a display problem. If you type more than 30 and export it. Do you see the full tittle in the exifs of the image

 

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I can confirm this issue on Mac.  It was also confirmed by Jim Wilde with more details on this post

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic/support-for-seeing-long-file-names-and-titles/td-p/11818041

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Yes it is only a display problem, the data is saved with the file and the file names can be made long, just it is hard to see what you have typed in.

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8 m ago

I have exactly the same issue v10.1.1. on mac 10.15.7. 

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Still happening for me on LR 10.1.1 / Windows 10 with Font Size: Automatic:

 

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I have exactly the same issue with MacOS Catalina, latest Lightroom Classic. It seems to be a long standing issue. Very disappointing that such a simple interface issue has not been resolved before now. All Adobe needs to do is make the code for Filename and Title fields the same as the code for the Description field, which behaves properly. This is not rocket science, just a lack of adequate task management by those in charge.

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@steve_swayne The description field also behaves the same - it truncated the last line. So most of the fields truncate the last line, if not all.

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Odd, as I do not experience problems with the Description field and I often have very long descriptions.  

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@steve_swayne 

Are you using  Windows?  I think it is a Mac only issue.

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John Ellis (see above) has documented the same issue in Windows.

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@robert_somrak   Yes I am using a Mac Catalina OS. Latest Lightroom Classic.

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Updates to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products for Desktop, Mobile and Web were released today and contain a fix for this issue.

Please refresh your Creative Cloud application and install your update when it becomes available. Thank you for your patience.

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@Rikk I updated it to 10.2 but unfortunately, this update did not fix the issue at all. If you need screenshots or anything, let me know. I'm on Catalina 10.15.7.

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@Rikk 

Like @John_R_Ellis and @M_Ushioda, updating to 10.2 did not fix the issue with truncated Titles and Captions.

For me this bug is easily reproducible and fails 100% of the time.  But, to see the issue, it is necessary to enter a long Title or Caption, and then go to another image and come back again.  The field expands while one is typing, and stays expanded after hitting Return, as long as one stays on the same image.  As soon as one selects another image and then comes back to the original one, the fields are truncated.

Catalina 10.15.7, LR 10.2