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Sat, Apr 28, 2012 7:35 AM

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Lightroom: LR4 RC2 Differences in rendering in Library and Develop modules

The rendering of a photo in develop is sometimes less saturated than it is in library.

To reproduce:

Select a CR2 file in library with loupe view on a second monitor.
Switch to develop, the saturation decreases slightly.
Switch to library and the saturation increases slightly.
Switch back to develop and the saturation remains the same
Move the contrast to 10 and then back to 0 and the saturation decreases.

A sequence of screen shots shows the effect.

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10 y ago

Nice find. Bug verified. And fixed!

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10 y ago

Great!

Which leaves the question: Is the above mentioned remark in the LR manual ("Note: Lightroom does not color-manage the view of the Library module on the second monitor.") a mistake and should be deleted?

As I said, I cannot imagine that an Adobe product for serious image processing has no color management for some windows...

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10 y ago

That might be an out-dated help content from previous versions of LR. Anyway I was able to reproduce the findings on this thread and forwarded it to my colleague who fixed it. The bug is a most recent breakage in 4.1 RC2.

-Simon

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92 Points

10 y ago

I'm glad I've found this thread that confirms my findings: Color Management is disabled on Monitor 2 on the Dev. module. Simple, there's nothing else, no saturation levels or anything else.
It has worked until 4.0 and I believe LR4.1 RC1, but I need to reinstall it to check.
I hope it gets fixed soon as it is making working impossible with RC2.

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230 Points

10 y ago

Does this bug also explain why images converted to black and white in CS5 then saved back to LR show as black and white in filmstrip in Develop module only when selected and then revert back to color when selecting a different image?

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230 Points

10 y ago

Just realized something else about black and white not showing correctly.

CR2 edited in PS CS5 using Silver Efex to convert to b/w
Saved and shows up as tiff in LR 4.1 rc 2
In Develop module: shows as black and white in filmstrip when selected; color when select other image
In Library module: only shows as color (grid/filmstrip and loupe views)
Switch back to Develop and shows in b/w in full view and same behavior as above in filmstrip

Only way to fix this is to render a 1:1 preview (tried rendering a standard first but said that it could not as the standard preview was up to date)

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182 Points

10 y ago

4.1 rc2 5d (DNG, Raw, Jpg) When I had the second monitor on I noticed picture looked slightly washed or maybe a .25 up on the exposure in second display in Develop ONLY. (with 2 monitors) Thought it was the monitor but no way. Switch to Library and it looks fine. Here is the strange thing. Go back to Develop and it does NOT change back to washed out...matched the main view. It also seems to change in the small preview monitor. I went back and reset all the defaults...nothing.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
LR RC2 Second Display / preview window change exposure about .25 in Develop mod..

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200 Points

10 y ago

When in develop mode, there are 3 "versions" of the currently edited image:
Big one, Navigator version, filmstrip version
The big one and the navigator version are always in sync but the one in the filmstrip appears to have pale colors.
Whenever I select another one from the filmstrip, the previously selected one then shows correct colors but now the newly selected one gets a little pale.

Will try to add an image that should show the effect well enough: The saturated blue sky, green grass and red roof of the big & navigator versions seem to be pale in the filmstrip version.

Images are RAWs from Nikon D60. I played around with the various on/off switches of the develop module to find out if there ́s some group of controls that get ignored for the filmstrip version but couldn ́t find one. Also killed the preview cache and started from scratch. None of both changed anything.
Running 4.1 RC2 on Win7 64bit

This does *not* happen in the Library module.
Bought Lr4 but haven ́t bothered installing it and went straight to 4.1RC2, so this has (so far) not been reproduced in another version.


This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
4.1 RC2 Develop module: Colors in filmstrip-image change when selected.

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230 Points

10 y ago

Within the Develop module and when looking at the filmstrip, the image in the selected thumbnail seems to have the exposure decreased by 1/3 stop. When unselected, the image returns to its normal exposure. This is most readily seen with blue skies taking on a darker/purplish hue. This occurs with RAW files as well as TIFFs saved from CS5
Using LR 4.1 RC 2 and files from a Canon 50D.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom: Selected thumbnails in filmstrip Develop module are underexposed - LR 4.1 RC 2.

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110 Points

10 y ago

I can confirm the same issue (the original issue discribed at the begining of the topic) with LR 4.1 RC2 on Mac OS X 10.7.4 now.

Bartek

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202 Points

10 y ago

I'm running LR4 RC2 on a dual monitor setup under Windows 7 x64.


When I load a .dng file in the develop module and zoom the image in the primary display to 1:1, my primary monitor correctly displays the image, but the image on the secondary monitor changes colour balance from it's initial load and no longer matches the colour balance of the primary monitor.


This results in two totally different colour balance views of the same image file while using the develop module with dual monitors.

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
LR4 RC2: Dual Monitor problem in Develop Module.

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194 Points

10 y ago

With LR 4.1RC2 I noticed very different ( and wrong ) colors on my second monitor in the develop module.

The same monitor does display the pictures with correct colors and contrast in the manage module with loupe view.

I think I got this new "feature" with RC2. RC1 was ok if my memory does not foul me.

System: Windows 7 64Bit

Does anybody else did discover this behavior?

regards

Peter Heuchert

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom 4.1RC2 wrong colors on second monitor in develop module.

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82 Points

10 y ago

Lightroom 4.1 Have Problem. in the Second Monitor view mode lost rgb profile

This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Lightroom 4.1 Have Problem color profile.

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114 Points

10 y ago

Since it is solved, what is the solution ? Could anyone share it with the likes of us ? :)

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110 Points

10 y ago

I expect that "Solved" means that the solution is the internal fix that will be distributed with the next release (either RC3) or final 4.1 - it's only my own interpretation.

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Exactly.