tommy_szewczuk's profile

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464 Points

Thu, Mar 1, 2012 3:16 PM

Photoshop: Modernize and improve the Radial Blur filter

i want to be able to select the vanishing point directly inside the image and get a gpu supported real-time preview

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64 Points

10 y ago

Agreed. I would love it to work similar to the gradient tool so that I can target the vanishing point, the size of it and even the intensity of the spin or zoom.

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230 Points

9 y ago

Radial blur has amazing potential, but is stunted by an interface that's old, imprecise and hard to control. It could really benefit from a total overhaul, like the crop tool did in CS6. How about intuitive controls like iris blur, or integrating it with the perspective tool so it relates with the scene and updates in real-time?
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Photoshop: Renovate Radial Blur, please

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3.2K Points

also increasing the range of the amount of blur

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1K Points

I agree with bot comments here. Also, is there a way to reset the filter grid back to the center after it's been moved?

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132 Points

8 y ago

For the filter Radial Blur, it would be extremely helpful to have a thumbnail of the layer and want to blur. Sometimes, I like to blur objects that is off centered and seeing the image would help a lot.
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Photoshop: Radial Blur : preview / thumbnail please!

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1K Points

I agree. Reset option would be good too.

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780 Points

Very much agreed. The tiny grid preview is archaic and pretty much useless for judging the strength/position of the blur.

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100 Points

8 y ago

When are you going to rebuild the “Radial Blur” filter this filter is not used a lot but sometimes it is the perfect filter for the job. BUT it is a pain in the butt to use, you must keep going back and forth to see if you got what you needed. Please make this filter user friendly.

Anyone else that agrees with me please make a post for this request.
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Photoshop: Radial Blur needs overhaul

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195.8K Points

What do you mean by "user friendly"?

And actually, that filter is used very often.

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100 Points

I think you misunderstood which filter I am talking about see pict. NO preview NO indication of what you will get.

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No, I know exactly which filter it is.

And, again, what do you mean by "user friendly"? That could mean a lot of different things. So, what exactly are you asking for?

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100 Points

If you have used this filter how can you not know what I mean by”user friendly” with most other filters you either get a preview window or you see adjustments in t he main window. With the Radial Blur filter you have to make adjustment click OK to see if you got the result you wanted if not (most of the time) you go back and try again until you get what you want.

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3.2K Points

I agree, preview is critical to being friendly to us users.

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8 y ago

Agreed. Reset function would be nice as well.

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394 Points

8 y ago

Motion blur tool is very difficult to point out the focus position.
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled PHOTOSHOP: Select the radial blur focus on the image

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The Filter presented in your screenshot is called »Radial Blur« in english, maybe you can amend the title.

Unfortunately I think it has been pointed out by Adobe personnel that justifying the expenditure of updating (the interface of) old Filters would need well reasoned arguments, examples where the workflow is hindered currently and probably numbers.

And it has come up before ... (edited)
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...
http://feedback.photoshop.com/photosh...

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title fixed.

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Thanks.

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5 y ago

I have started this in another forum and was suggested to better try it here, but I do not want to type all the stuff again, so please have here the Link:   How to exactly position center of Radial Blur Filter?

I hope, someone at Adobe can read the link above and forward it to the developers.
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Photoshop: Ability to precisely position Radial Blur / Zoom Filter

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30K Points

yeah, i asked this a few years ago when they created the blur gallery panel...

"why wasn't radial/zoom blur included?"

the response had something to do with Marketing believing that not enough people used the tool to justify including it with the other blurs.

so instead, now we get to continue using a 20 year old interface which lacks any sort of precision.

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Hi eartho

Are they kidding? 

You need this for a million things each day. Not only the Radial mode, but also the Zoom mode of the Radial Blur filter. Important to the power of 10. Propellers, wheels, wings of flying insects etc. etc. etc. - infinite list.

Watch this:  How to Zoom Blur in Affinity Photo, made it this afternoon.

Yeah, unfortunately Adobe is almost not listening to user base and direct contact to people who would be listening is somehow impossible.

CU, Roland

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Glad to see you found the Affinity solution. Using that program shows just how much Adobe has dropped the ball in the modern age. 

Another fine example of this is the new On1 Raw application. I picked this up last week and i'm absolutely blown away by the features and quality of the processor. 

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Yeah, I must check this On1 if I find the time. Nice to read it has interfaces to Lr and Ps.

Oh man, Ps is in fact a good piece of software and has cool things like the the Filter Gallery and e.g. it's "Plastic Wrap", what is really complex stuff:

But what I can not understand is trivial "all day functions" - much easier to fix and/or implement - are ignored since about 14 years (as far as I could quick and dirty Google it).

This is so nuts...

Very bad: no ears for user feedback. ZERO. Persons feeling responsible for that what they are in charge of: Uncontactable.

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eartho, are you on Mac or Win? General link:  http://affinity.serif.com. The Affinity Designer is already available also on Win, if you're in Designer stuff, try it:  https://affinity.serif.com/de/windows/, ease of workflow and speed will blow your mind of if you are in 64 bit environment. Here is the Beta for Windows  https://affinity.serif.com/forum/index.php?/topic/30360-affinity-photo-beta-150-rc4/page-2#entry1485..., the Mac 1.4.3 release is on App Store the 1.5 Mac beta you'll find here  https://affinity.serif.com/forum/index.php?/forum/19-affinity-photo-on-mac-beta/. All of Serif's software is quite inexpensive (~ EUR 40) and: NON-subscription. Yeah.

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4 y ago

When will we get an overhaul of Radial / Zoom blur with at least a preview? Affinity Photo has the preview even directly on canvas/image in real time... If they can do it, why Adobe won't and refuses - customers complaining this since years - updating this?? Add please at least the possibility to copy and paste the exact coordinates like in Lens Flare filter. Many thanks in advance, Roland
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Radial / Zoom Blur overhaul urgently needed

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28K Points

I’m not exactly optimistic on this being implemented but those Filters certainly could do with the improvements. 

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174 Points

4 y ago

Hi there. I know there are other threads discussing this, but this is so desperately needed I feel it's worth more people shouting about it.
The radial blur feature is woefully inadequate. Anyone who's used it will be well aware of its limitations. I read a response that says the developers don't think enough people use it, so is not worth renovating. This is wrong - a great many people use it regularly. I've also read people suggesting workarounds. We shouldn't need a workaround. Photoshop should do this 'in-house' so to speak. We need:

* A larger window
* An interactive preview of the result
* The ability to numerically alter the focus of the blur effect
* The ability to reset to zero
* The ability to save presets

Thanks for reading this. I hope some changes happen soon.
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Radial Blur critically outdated

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I agree, obviously dated. I use it for creating sun beams.

--Steve Gandy - stevegandy.com/photography

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Yep, they created a whole new interface for creating/applying blurs, but decided not to include radial and zoom. When i previously asked why, i was told that not enough people wanted or used that filter so why bother? Such a silly excuse.

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834 Points

4 y ago

Please update Radial and Zoom Blur like it is in Affinity Photo - or at least with a Preview. Many 1000 thanks in advance.
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Preview for Radial and Zoom Blur like in Affinity Photo

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120 Points

Come on Adobe get your act together, this feature has been needed for years!!! The Radial blur us just too cumbersome as it currently is.

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Having a real preview for radial and zoom blur would be handy.
I suggest to apply the blur on a duplicate layer and to play with opacity. You can even play with blend modes and adding a layer is necessary anyway for masking.

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Yeah, it's not about masking and blending. It's for setting CENTRE of blur accurate and efficient, without needing 100's of attempts or so, until you hit to point you want to be the centre accidentally. Adobe should check how easy it is to apply zoom blur in Affinity Photo. It should be at least possible to set the centre like it can be done for lens flare - also this is totally  inconvenient compared to Affinity Photo, but anyway better as current Radial/Zoom blur of Photoshop where it is a try-and-error method :(

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I guess the next best thing is to use those filters without previews like Radial Blur as a Smart Filter, so at least it's easier to change than just running it, having to undo, run it again, etc.

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I can set the center accurately enough.
Tip: set your grid to show four divisions, like in the preview.
(grid line every 25%)
Click on the desired center in the grid view, hold and move that point to the center.

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80 Points

4 y ago

The Radial Blur tool is marginally useful, and from what I can see has never changed since its introduction some 20+ years ago. We now have multiple blur tools, many of which are duplicated in the Blur Gallery.

The interface options for blurring a layer are all over the place. The Radial Blur tool is modal, so we can't select the center point. Box Blur, Gaussian Blur, and Motion Blur are non-modal, Lens Blur opens an entirely new window, and Blur / Blur More pretty much duplicate existing functionality at this point (Box Blur, which as mentioned above, is non-modal). Lens Blur is duplicated by Iris Blur, Radial (spin option) Blur is duplicated by Spin, Motion Blur is duplicated by Path Blur, and Field Blur is what...Gaussian Blur with a new name and interface?

The Blur Gallery tools seem to be far more "modern" from a usability sense in that they work well and have precise controls. Since the Radial Blur is still modal, the center point can't be selected, which is the entire point of Radial Blur. I've seen suggested workarounds like this https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2246182 and frankly, that process is completely asinine.

My idea: Eliminate the entire Blur menu and replace it with the Blur Gallery. Move Box Blur, Gaussian Blur, and Radial (zoom option) Blur into the Blur Gallery and simplify the codebase while improving usability.
Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Unify the blur tools, make them better

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2K Points

Right!  And you make lots of people unhappy by breaking their actions they have been using for years.  

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Just look what happened when Adobe removed useless variant adjustment feature:  https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/we_want_a_variations_tool_for_color_correctio...

Many tools duplicate these variants adjustments, but people doesn't like changes. So if you would like to reply on each complain...

Otherwise I think you have good Idea but you need to be carefull if you want something remove.

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80 Points

At least this response explains why I'm forced to wait 10% longer each release for the application to start.

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Yes it's something like that. Filters should be loaded with Photoshop start. Some of them are as file in folder. So you can delete this .8bf file and filter is gone. But it's not case for all filters. I am not saying that your idea is wrong. I agree with you in some way. I am just saying that if you simply remove feature, there will the consequences for which Adobe must be prepared.

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70 Points

10 m ago

Filter> Blur> Radial Blur is long overdue for a preview option (if not also for live placement). Putting the blur where you want it, especially when controlling it via a square navigator when most people don't use squares canvases, takes a while and really can't get precise. Painters and illustrators, especially in various splash arts, would really love for this to be a thing. 

Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Radial Blur filter preview